both great horses. Dont get ridden enough, was told they're about 16-20 years old from when they had their teeth done as when we got them the owners didn't know. They will need a little work to be beginner friendly but never had problems with getting on them. Stand great for farrier, come right to you when called, very friendly and easy to catch. 3 saddles come with as well as lead ropes, bridals, different bits, and other horse tack.